From: Jason L. Miles Newsgroups: alt.startrek.vs.starwars Subject: Sector Group Strength (Based on Imp SB) (Long) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 07:21:04 GMT Based on the Imp SB, I'm going to try and figure out the exact composition of a fleet (All I'm doing is assigning ship classes from the SB to the different definitions in the SB). These are only Combat Strengths, so support and transport units are not included. If you want me to include them, ask. My Assumptions are as follows: The Imperial Navy is, for the most part, composed only of ships mentioned in the SB. The desired ship strength (at the line level) is the highest number listed. ISDII is always preferable to ISDI Escort Class is a Escort Carrier (CE) Lancer Class is a Frigate (FF) Carrack Class is a Light Cruiser (CL) Strike Class is a Light Cruiser (CL) Interdictor Class is a Heavy Cruiser (CA) Dreadnaught Class is a Heavy Cruiser (CA) VSDII is VSDII (VSDII) ISDII is ISDII (ISDII) Torpedo Sphere is Battlestation (BS) OOB: Line Level: Attack Line [AL]: 6 Strike Class CL - Based on the description. Carrack CLs not included because their high speed makes them ideal in a Persuit Line Heavy Attack Line [HAL]: 8 Dreadnaught Class CA - Based on description of ships. Interdictors are not present because they are less powerful combatants Persuit Line [PL]: 8 Carrack Class CL 2 Interdictor Class CA - Carrack CLs are used because of their high speed. the Interdictor CAs are to keep the prey in normal space while the rest of the line engages them Recon Line [RL]: 4 Carrack Class CL -Carrack CLs used because they have a higher speed than Strike CLs Skirmish Line [SL]: 18 Lancer Class FF 2 Escort Class CE -Given the anti-starfighter nature of the Skirmish Line, this make-up seemed to make sense to me. Torpedo Line [TPL]: 2 Torpedo Sphere BS -Exactly as stated From here, on I simply repeat information from the SB, giving the Ship totals as I calculate them. Squadron Level: Light Squadron (Recon) [RECRON]: 2 RL, 1 SL, 1 PL 18 Lancer FFs, 2 Escort CEs, 16 Carrack CLs, 2 Interdictor CAs 38 Ships Light Squadron [LIGHTRON]: 2 AL, 1 SL, 1 RL 18 Lancer FFs, 2 Escort CEs, 4 Carrack CLs, 12 Strike CLs 36 Ships Heavy Squadron [HEAVYRON]: 2 HAL, 1 AL, 1 RL 4 Carrack CLs, 6 Strike CLs, 16 Dreadnaught CAs 26 Ships Heavy Squadron (Attack) [ATTACKRON]: 1 VSD, 3 HAL, 1 SL 18 Lancer FFs, 2 Escort CEs, 24 Dreadnaught CAs, 1 VSD 45 Ships Battle Squadron [BATRON] 1 ISDII, 2 AL, 1 PL 8 Carrack CLs, 12 Strike CLs, 2 Interdictor CAs, 1 ISDII 23 Ships Bombard Squadron [BOMBRON] 2 TPL, 1 SL, 1 PL 18 Lancer FFs, 2 Escort CEs, 8 Carrack CLs, 2 Interdictor CAs, 4 Torpedo Sphere BSs 30 Ships, 4 Battlestations Augmented Light Squadron (Recon) [AUGRECRON]: 2 RL, 2 SL, 3 PL, 1 AL 36 Lancer FFs, 4 Escort CEs, 32 Carrack CLs, 12 Strike CLs, 6 Interdictor CAs 90 Ships Augmented Light Squadron [AUGLIGHTRON]: 5 AL, 2 SL, 1 RL 36 Lancer FFs, 4 Escort CEs, 8 Carrack CLs, 30 Strike CLs 78 Ships Augmented Heavy Squadron [AUGHEAVYRON]: 4 HAL, 3 AL, 1 RL 4 Carrack CLs, 18 Strike CLs, 24 Dreadnaught CAs 46 Ships Augmented Heavy Squadron (Attack) [AUGATTACKRON]: 1 VSDII, 5 HAL, 1 AL, 2 SL 36 Lancer FFs, 4 Escort CEs, 6 Strike CLs, 30 Dreadnaught CAs, 1 VSDII 77 Ships Augmented Battle Squadron [AUGBATRON]: 1 ISDII, 4 AL, 2 PL, 1 RL 24 Carrack CLs, 24 Strike CLs, 4 Interdictor CAs, 1 ISDII 53 Ships Augmented Bombard Squadron [AUGBOMBRON]: 4 TPL, 1 HAL, 2 SL, 1 PL 36 Lancer FFs, 4 Escort CEs, 8 Carrack CLs, 2 Interdictor CAs, 6 Dreadnaught CAs, 8 Torpedo Sphere BS 56 Ships, 8 Battlestations Systems Force Level: Superiority Force [SUPERFORCE]: 3 BATRON, 1 LIGHTRON 18 Lancer FFs, 2 Escort CEs, 28 Carrack CLs, 48 Strike CLs, 6 Interdictor CAs, 3 ISDIIs 105 Ships Escort Force [ESCORTFORCE]: 1 HEAVYRON, 1 ATTACKRON, 1 LIGHTRON, 1 RECONRON 54 Lancer FFs, 6 Escort CEs, 24 Carrack CLs, 18 Strike CLs, 2 Interdictor CAs, 40 Dreadnaught CAs, 1 VSDII 145 Ships Systems Bombardment Force [BOMBFORCE]: 3 BOMBRON, 1 RECONRON 72 Lancer FFs, 8 Escort CEs, 40 Carrack CLs, 8 Interdictor CAs, 12 Torpedo Sphere BSs 128 Ships, 12 Battlestations Augmented Superiority Force [AUGSUPERFORCE]: 4 AUGBATRON, 2 AUGATTACKRON, 2 AUGRECONRON 144 Lancer FFs, 16 Escort CEs, 168 Carrack CLs, 168 Strike CLs, 16 Interdictor CAs, 60 Dreadnaught CAs, 2 VSDIIs, 4 ISDIIs 578 Ships Augmented Escort Force [AUGESCORTFORCE]: 1 AUGHEAVYRON, 3 AUGATTACKRON, 3 AUGLIGHTRON, 1 AUGRECONRON 252 Lancer FFs, 28 Escort CEs, 36 Carrack CLs, 156 Strike CLs, 104 Dreadnaught CAs, 3 VSDIIs 576 Ships Augmented Systems Bombardment Force [AUGBOMBFORCE]: 5 AUGBOMBRON, 1 AUGATTACKRON, 2 AUGRECONRON 380 Lancer FFs, 32 Escort CEs, 112 Carrack CLs, 30 Strike CLs, 22 Interdictor CAs, 60 Dreadnaught CAs, 1 VSDII, 40 Torpedo Sphere BS 637 Ships, 40 Battlestations Fleet Level: Superiority Fleet [SUPERFLT] 2 SUPFORCE, 2 ESCORTFORCE 144 Lancer FFs, 16 Escort CEs, 104 Carrack CLs, 132 Strike CLs, 16 Interdictor CAs, 80 Dreadnaught CAs, 2 VSDIIs, 6 ISDIIs 500 Ships Bombard Fleet [BOMBFLT] 2 ESCORTFORCE, 2 BOMBFORCE 252 Lancer FFs, 28 Escort CEs, 128 Carrack CLs, 36 Strike CLs, 20 Interdictor CAs, 80 Dreadnaught CAs, 2 VSDIIs, 24 Torpedo Sphere BSs 546 Ships, 24 Battlestations Augmented Superiority Fleet [AUGSUPERFLT] 2 AUGSUPFORCE, 2 AUGESCORTFORCE 792 Lancer FFs, 88 Escort CEs, 408 Carrack CLs, 648 Strike CLs, 32 Interdictor CAs, 328 Dreadnaught CAs, 10 VSDIIs, 8 ISDIIs 2,314 Ships Augmented Bombard Fleet [AUGBOMBFLT] 2 AUGESCORTFORCE, 2 AUGBOMBFORCE 1264 Lancer FFs, 120 Escort CEs, 296 Carrack CLs, 372 Strike CLs, 44 Interdictor CAs, 328 Dreadnaught CAs, 8 VSDIIs, 80 Torpedo Sphere BSs 2,432 Ships, 80 Battlestations And now, the moment you've all been waiting for, at least since you started reading this message, The Sector Group Level of Organization: Sector Group [SECGRU] 4 SUPERFLTs 576 Lancer FFs, 64 Escort CEs, 416 Carrack CLs, 528 Strike CLs, 64 Interdictor CAs, 360 Dreadnaught CAs, 8 VSDIIs, 24 ISDIIs, 2,000 Ships Augmented Sector Group [AUGSECGRU] 5 AUGSUPERFLTs, 1 AUGBOMBFLT 5,224 Lancer FFs, 560 Escort CEs, 2,336 Carrack CLs, 3,612 Strike CLs, 204 Interdictor CAs, 1,968 Dreadnaught CAs, 58 VSDIIs, 40 ISDIIs, 80 Torpedo Sphere BSs 14,002 Ships, 80 Battlestations We estimated around 2000 ships for the entire Federation, right?